Breaking News: zFire Xue is a Convicted Criminal

14 03 2011

Ebay Fraudster Since 1997Never let it be said that zfRedZone is drama free. In a sensational development, someone has uncoverd evidence that everything we said about zFire Xue is true. I have said I will not use his full real name on this forum (although I have known it for quite some time). In the light of this news, I say stuff it!

Michael Stefan Prime has multiple criminal convictions, including convictions for ebay fraud. This is an article about Mike Prime – zFire Xue. A longer PDF court record is here, and a New York Times article is here. Note from the court record that he had a string of previous convictions for first and second degree theft, two counts of possession of stolen property in the second degree, and forgery – at the age of 19!!

Bronxelf released this link to the court records for this case in a sensational post on SLUniverse a short while ago. Theia Magic confirmed this was the information she passed on to Linden Lab on Friday, and that the Lab is therefore now aware of zFire’s criminal record.

As zFire’s usual response is to fib and deny, I will pre-empt questions as to whether this is the same Michael Prime by saying that the age and details in this report fit him perfectly (19 in 1999 – he is 30 now, which we know is correct), and I had already scoured the web some months ago and I am 99.9% confident that he is the only Mike Prime in the Seattle area in the region of 30 years old. Theia Magic has also spent the weekend confirming identity and turning up some interesting names to others we have seen before – including John Hamlin. Theia’s blog is linked on the right, so check there to see if she posts updates.

So there you have it. It is as we always knew it: The fight between us and RedZone was always about thousands of honest sim owners and content creators on the one side, and a small band of thieves and criminals on the other. And the criminals built a system called RedZone.

Now, in our view, Linden Lab must act.

Consider what we have here:

  1. Mike Prime set up a system that unreliably but with some success links alts by IP address. He does not care about false positives, as long as he finds a few real positives because:
  2. Most people who have lats use the same password or some variation on the same.
  3. Mike Prime has been harvesting password information from the 5,000+ users of his site by logging real passwords and failed attempts.

there is a very real risk that Mike Prime intends to use stolen accounts and stolen alt accounts for more petty theft and fraud.

URGENT: Please put aside all grudges and tell all users of RedZone, and anyone who ever registered at Mike Prime’s site to CHANGE THEIR PASSWORD IMMEDIATELY IN ALL PLACES THEY USE THAT PASSWORD!

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52 responses

14 03 2011
Monkies

ah ha! I say, anyone who HAS been feeling pity for him to stop sympathizing for his victimized acts and make yourself aware that he most likely has gotten into YOUR account to see your private info that you save in your inventory on your notecards, friend’s list of your alts you added, pictures of your RL faces that you shared once with a friend.

Not to mention CONTENT CREATORS! Wake up! You are trying to protect yourself against copybots, and here is someone who walked right into YOUR account and probably saved all of your items to his computer and most likely, he is the one who is sending YOUR products to people while telling you that you are being copyboted JUST so you keep using his “RedZone” product to protect yourselves.

I say its most safest that ALL of us just do as no2redzone says and everyone change their password right now, because most likely there is another story we have YET to hear of, where we find out he has the passwords to anyone’s account even if you haven’t gotten his product.

14 03 2011
Leandra Kohnke

People knew exposing alts must be wrong. How could they not know? Unethical people were taken advantage of by an even more unethical person. I am trying to find sympathy here and I’m not having a whole lot of luck. Sorry.

Oh and Redzone is not gone yet.

15 03 2011
Jenni Darkwatch

Wholeheartedly agreed. I feel a distinct lack of sympathy for people using any such system, even if it does not expose alts.

People who think I have no right to privacy and do their best to invade mine won’t get any sympathy from me. Ever.

14 03 2011
Cathiee McMIllan

With all that is coming out i would think that the people who use redzone need to also understand that they most likely got duped into purchasing redzone.

1.) Zfire-Member and hosts the Knights of Mars on his machine – Basically a griefing group with no respect to the Linden TOS.
2.) Zfire with his other Alt sells the Redzone security device.
3.) the KoM comes and Griefs your sim or copy bots you, you login to Marketplace see this great product called redzone to help you against them.
4.) you purchase redzone for the 20.00 usd and then give him possible control over who he can ban. As well as tracking your IP and any alts you have or others have so he can grief more.
5.) Now take the fact that if he is the same person who was convicted of fraud. He is still doing the same thing with his group of buddies except in SL, figuring they won’t get caught since it was only sl.

Either way even if that external person isn’t him, Zfire has a little Fraud business going on in sl and taking money and trust away from people who felt they really got griefed or copy-boted.

14 03 2011
Noneofyourbusiness

and there are thousands of others on SL doing the same with all kinds of gadgets.. and you people are giving this guy exactly what he wants… attention… well done! and once all the losers and griefers and idiots in SL are stopped from ruining the game for others… then we will all be happy… get a grip folks.. its a computer game and its never gonna get any better.. cuz its run by humans and humans are STUPID…. while thousands are dying all over the world innocently, we are on here worried about some basement computer geek .. why dont you all go put your money into a local charity organization and help someone instead of putting it into Second Life.. or computer games… if we all stpped worrying so much about how others behave and looked at our own behaviour.. maybe, just maybe, the world might become a nicer place to live..

15 03 2011
DeNovo Broome

oh, hello zFire. :>

oh, and no, you don’t pull 300 k out of “just a game.” This is real life grown up, you go to jail for it bad.

16 03 2011
Nunja

I totally agree with Noneofyourbusiness. You have maybe proof nothing more. You just want to create drama for the sake of creatig it. Interesting one of the heads of green zone has his own security system. what a great way to get rid of competition. Furthermore, Red Zone has been out for at least 2 years now and only since January you all are carrying on with petty immature drama. Me thinks one person got bored in SL and decided to slowly spread drama to hurt others. Finally they hurt lots of others and had a good ole laugh at others expense. I am sure if you all would of been kinder and more humane in you actions your attempts to shut this down would of been faster. Harrassment, threats and griefing are the exact reasons why others use RedZone. Funny you use IPs logging as a reason go to web sites what do you ahve IP logging doh. Nicknames or alts…who cares who your alt is? All RZ folks want is to keep the alts of banned idiots out of our zones.

I say take your drama back to your poor pathetic real lives and go back to SL to have fun…or keep the drama in your pathetic little groups and stop ruining SL for others.

14 03 2011
Monkies

Obviously we have a rapist in Lincoln Park. He’s climbing in your windows. He’s snatchin your people up, tryna rape em so y’all need to Hide your kids, hide your wife, Hide your kids, hide your wife, Hide your kids, hide your wife. And hide your husband Cuz they’re rapin errbody out there.

You don’t have to come and confess we’re lookin for you. We gon find you, We gon find you. So you can run and tell that, Run and tell that, Run and tell that, homeboy Home, home, homeboy

We got your t-shirt You done left fingerprints and all. You are so dumb you are really dumb–for real.

The man got away leaving behind evidence. I was attacked by some idiot in the projects. So dumb, so dumb, so dumb, so

He’s climbing in your windows. He’s snatchin your people up, tryna rape em so y’all need to Hide your kids, hide your wife, Hide your kids, hide your wife, Hide your kids, hide your wife. And hide your husband Cuz they’re rapin errbody out there.

You don’t have to come and confess we’re lookin for you. We gon find you, We gon find you. So you can run and tell that, Run and tell that, Run and tell that, homeboy Home, home, homeboy

14 03 2011
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14 03 2011
Noneofyourbusiness

And I wonder, what makes you think we can trust you… or the greenzone guy.. or SEcond Life.. hell i dont even trust the people who look after my online banking or my online courses I take, or Facebook, or Twitter, or Linkedin.. give me a break people.. your IP is being taken by plenty of other websites and online organizations.. this guy just came up with something that worked too well and was abused by people and now everyone is crying about it. when you are all done whining… have a look at the security of your computer, internet, phone, postal mail.. blah blah.. then come back and tell us something worthwhile… cuz right now we are ALL being watched and I dont believe this so called reports you sent of articles is him… i could find articles in the newspaper about some dork swindling on e-bay too.. give me a break.. this is a joke all of it cuz WHO CARES!

15 03 2011
Monkies

hmm, you say you don’t care, but you clearly show enough emotion to be posting here in the first place. I mean if this really didn’t phase you, you would of stopped the moment you were at the greenzone group. But you seem to of SOMEHOW magically navigated to this blog. Might I remind you that this blog is specifically intended to say NO TO REDZONE. lol

By the way, with this quote you said: “what makes you think we can trust you” please next time only say “i” not “we” because I do not include myself under the “we” category with you on that boat there of yours.

And the last thing, random people didn’t abuse the crappy product, it was him and he hacked into a lot of user accounts. So before you respond with stupidity, actually read up on a blog that provides all the info you need to know about what is going on.

So go take your “cuz WHO CARES!” self elsewhere so we don’t have to educate you with each response you make.

16 03 2011
Nunja

Obviously the onle people that care are the ones that jack off to the drama they create or have such pathetic SL/RL lives they need to go threaten others cuz they are such little men and women they cant do it alone the need followers.

15 03 2011
Bunderwahl Guisse

So you are the privacy people? Publishing someones rl name, where they live, hacking their legal database, producing records of someone with the same name and alleging it is him (how many Mike Primes are there?) Condoning and celibrating all this… Gee I remember why I got RedZone now

15 03 2011
Notkenny

Oh look, one of Redzone’s most rabid, vocal supporters. Suddenly you’re all concerned about somebody else’s privacy? Fuck off. You got your redzone because you’re a despicable worthless little toad and felt a sense of power from it. How pathetic and miserable your RL must be. I pity you, I really do.

Now run along and change your password. Monkeyboy screwed you, just like the habitual criminal he is. Or are you still in denial about that like you’ve been in denial about the basics of networking since all this blew up?

15 03 2011
Monkies

oh snap!

15 03 2011
MilosZ MilosZ

I think he posted on the RZ forums that he bought it to help protect his “investment” What a joke. He runs a sex sim. Sex sims are not investments they are hobbies and cash-sinks.

16 03 2011
Nunja

sorry loser the only power i felt was when i banned a decrepit ass like you and knew his alts couldn’t get in where i didn’t want them to be. Ya like people that threatened me, harassed me, banned me from their land b/c I use RedZone..you know not everyone wanted it for any other reason then to BAN the losers. I never did know how to check for alts and never gave a flying fuck. You green zone douchebags spent so much time griefing threatening and createing drama you hurt your own selves. Lost very valuable customers that spent literally 100’s of L in you rshops weekly, monthly due to you actions. And you lost respect…but of course in SL respect means nothing….right along with friendship…ouch the knives still hurt in my back. funny how I had RZ for 2 yaers i guess? and lost friends in the last 2 months due to using it that were great friends until the ring leader drama maker got involved. I figure they lost more then me…I at least kept my self respect. Tangents are for 2 year olds not for supposed adults.

15 03 2011
Rolando

Hey assclown, what part of the terms “security breach” do you not understand? You’ve been had and are apparently too stupid to see that.

15 03 2011
Krljavi

Wow, one of “smart” guyise from isellsl!
Tell me something, how does it feels to be marked like cattle? So far, after all this shenanigans of your beloved egocentric (yeah, you see im not only one who think hes egocentric and has God syndrome) zFire did, you people still think hes “good” guy? Wow, you know who else had fanatical minions? L.Ron Hubbard. Adolph Hitler as well…
Now go crawl under that rock you came from since your forum is busted (over, and over) since you will feel wraith of angry mob on your e-skin as well…

15 03 2011
Potosi Abonwood

Awwwww…. one of your “friends” got their privacy knocked down. Now you are concerned about privacy. Everybody else got their invaded but you didn’t care a bit. But then again it was all about you wasn’t it? You are the one who even claimed not to care about peoples alts…. but one of your last posts at the theif forum was about comparing profiles and how those were the ‘good ole days’.

Karma….

17 03 2011
Nunja

Potosi your a real ignoramous…not everyone in the world is out to get others some of us are just out for peace and then there are douches like yu that come in and start drama cuz you have nothing better to do. you found a wagon that needed some pawns and you jumped on a tangent you know little to nothing about.

as i said before i did not know how to see alts of people nor did i care. all i cared about was the few bans i had and keeping THEIR alts out. I do not need to see how many alts bored lifeless people have I just need to know they cant come into my area that I have the right to keep them out.

not everyone in SL is malicious tangent making drama freak with nothing else to do then create and run.

15 03 2011
Rolando

Hey BlunderWail, there’s plenty of adult places that don’t do RedZone, and we’re all gonna be telling everyone we know about your place, and thus avoiding it like the plague. Hope you enjoy your empty sim.

15 03 2011
Azure Twine

The Greenzone team sent out a notecard warning people to change their sl passwords. i wrote the notecard and Fart sent it out. It is amazing the nasty responses I am getting back.

I don’t care if you use redzone, like “greenies” or have your head in the sand. When someone takes the time to warn you of a possib;e breach to your own password security you can either heed it or ignore it but don’t shoot the messenger. I, for one, never use my SL password on any external sites even out of dumb habit.

When a laptop was stolen from one of my finance management firms, they not only wrote to warn us we MAY have had our data compromised, they also offered an entire year of free identity theft and credit protection services.

This whole mess has really taken an emotional toll on me and I am so ready to just hit that X and walk away. I am sick of the fighting and name calling and just plain meanness.

Seriously, we were right about this guy and his supporters still defend him. Amazing… and the lab has been deafeningly silent…

16 03 2011
Nunja

You need to sit bac and see how all of were treated previously to that. GreenZone users threatened us, harrassed us, ARed us and NC us, threatened in IM, threatened in Groups, and it continued not once or twice or even three times. Then started boycotting and banning us from land. Then a sweet concerned “note” is sent to us…what do you expect. Cant threaten and be low class nasty and then expect people to give you a hug and say thank you have a cup of tea with me. Perhaps if it was approached from concern and care to begin with the final reception would of been more loving and appreciated. Most of us users did not ask for the drama that was create and shoved threateningly down our throats. We innocently purchased a security device. Each for our own reasons. And you all assumed we were bad nasty people. Just the horrid of all horrid. I am still dumbfounded by the friends I lost and the treatment that I received. When I tried to state my side I was SCREAMED at in NC and IMs and other places and told my comments were not needed, told I am banned and muted, told my friendship was no longer important, and those that attempted friendship with me still just carried conversations back to others. Yes, that is the way to get others to listen when you try to care. Furthermore, we aer all big people we already knew of the warnings and didnt need it. We are not so stupid not to follow what is going on ourselves.

GreenZone did a lot more harm then RedZone did to the community of SL.

16 03 2011
Nunja

PS

I am not supporting ZFire I am defending my right to purchase a security device and not be griefed threatened and harassed over its use after I had it for almost 2 year previously without issue.

Come on some of you people are decent people dont you see the point I am trying to make. I think the worst thing that happened to me with it beyond all that was losing complete respect for one person that I had the utmost respect for.

16 03 2011
Potosi Abonwood

Well maybe if your friends knew you were scanning them and shipping all their info off to a third party database for the last two years they may not have been upset. But you didn’t, just like most RZ users, you probably never said a word. Just kept it scanning along and feeding a database with their info without their consent or knowledge.

Not much of a friend would do that if you ask me.

15 03 2011
no2redzone

Predictably one of the die hard Redzone supporters suggests this is not Mike Prime who is zFire Xue. We are asked how many Mike Primes are there? Approximately 5 in the USA. Only one in Washington state aged 30. There is more:

This message was originally posted by Theia Magic on SLUniverse:

Ok…here’s some connect the dots:

-zFire has publicly admitted his YouTube account is marskgb006

-In the court documents in question, it names Shawn Cahill as one of the defendants and Mike’s friend:

"The extrinsic evidence included money orders and e-mail correspondence with aliases used to conduct fraudulent transactions, written reports by both the fingerprint and handwriting expert, and certified copies of prior convictions for both Prime and his friend Shawn Cahill"

-On marskgb006’s YouTube account, there is this video. Notice the title John vs. Shawn Cahill

-In the court documents in question, it names Juan Ore-Lovera as a co-defendant
-Also on marskgb006’s YouTube, there is this video. Notice the title of Juan’s reaction to the ‘John Vs. Shawn Cahill" video:

-Remember the John Hamlin mystery? CEO of Insanity Productions with Mike Prime? Well, here’s Juan’s (the co-defendant in Mike’s criminal case) Facebook. Look who his friend is- John Hamlin. John Hamlin | Facebook

There is no way it’s a coincidence that men who played a part in the criminal trial of Michael Stefen Prime are also in YouTube videos under an account that zFire publicly admits is his.

There’s no "if". zFire is Michael Stefan Prime.

15 03 2011
Monkies

This should be added on this post so it can smack questioners in the face.

15 03 2011
Cathiee McMillan

@Noneofyourbusiness
I love how the Redzone supporters are so into the IP thing. Yes our IP address’s are tracked by every webserver out their. But my ISP my entire neighbor hood for min of 5 miles have the same IP address. So if I got labeled as a copybot in one location by Zfire who can enter it manually. Then the entire neighbor hood would get listed as my alt, yea great way to loose customers for all you people so concerned.

They also fail to See that Zfire belonged to a Griefing group still.
If Zfire was sooooooooo against Griefing why did he host and why does he belong to the Griefing group in SL? Are you people that defend him that silly.
If Zfire doesn’t care about identifying alts why doesn’t he post all 14 of his alts to the public, and display every single sl group he belongs too.
( oh the answer will be he is afraid to get griefed, but he owns the supposed tool to prevent that)

They also fail to see that his product only found .024% thats nothing. Look at how many people it has scanned according to him. and you will see that .024% is nothing.

People who want this device want it to spy on people or to just have a bigger ban list yet you can get that ban list bigger with inworld security systems.

Now if you look at the Prime, of course he would be all about being watched… and having issues with it wouldn’t he?

16 03 2011
Nunja

Be careful what you label we want without asking what we want/ed. Cuz right now your right back to assumming and gonna get the shit started again Ms McMillan. I for one dont give a damn how many ppl get banned. The only ones in my ban list were ones I DID NOT want on my land PERIOD! My ban list is all of maybe 5 people. Really big ban list =lost income. I did not want that device to spy on anyone nor did i know how to spy on anyone. Nor would anyone tell me how when ppl started asking me if their alts were showing up. So dont go off all high and mighty assumming everyone has bad intentions. I know many of use had good intentions to use a security device taht banned alts. That what i bought it for. And in the 2 years I used it it never ONE SINGLE TIME banned ANYONE I manually did it all.

16 03 2011
Potosi Abonwood

No you are WRONG. Anybody that zFire manually entered in as a copybot was banned from your place also. That is something you had NO control over.

15 03 2011
Git-R-Done

wut wut hey i can make a free blogg and post wutever i want…..omg …….look at wut i can do…..

listen retards there is so many of you pissed off botters out there or ones that was added tot he system boooooo hoing making bloggs about this and that…..all of these blogg are free idiots anyone can make one….i can make one pertain hey the idiot that wrote the blogg “Breaking News: zFire Xue is a Convicted Criminal” is a petter puffing,fudge packing homo….does that means it’s true….try getting facts AND proof hey post websites that prove you know wut ya talking about dont just say it…prove it!!!

Got the proof yet???
Prooofer Broke????

Git-R-Done

15 03 2011
Monkies

Wee omz I’s lixes too poostteeds lixes da 5s yeers ollds to hides me personlitees sow know ones kans noes wooo i’s amms! :D

15 03 2011
Git-R-Done

I’m not hiden want my real name NP at all djsnoop Snoodle biggest redneck in SL convo ingame and I’ll confirm my identity here on this lame blogg post!!!

oh and BTW

Git-R-Done

15 03 2011
Git-R-Done

oh post your SL name billy badass since we are on the subject

16 03 2011
Monkies

@git r done

Technically I am the bigger man next to you because I don’t get persuaded by the opposing team. I chose the name Monkies and I’m sticking to my original choice and won’t be persuaded like a little pansy who bends when the wind blows.

15 03 2011
Git-R-Done

also did you know if someone is dj’n on your land…or if ya use media player that shoutcast site you know it web based and the dj or people can see wut “IP’s” are connectiong to it????

OMFG INTERNET RADIO OBTAINED MY IP ADDRESS THEY GOING TO HACK ME!!!

also did you know when ya use voice on SL that your connection to a actual outside source of communication that inwhich is a voice server like Team speak,ventrelio?????

OMFG IF I USE VOICE TO MAON AND HAVE SEX FOR MY GF ON SL THEY CAN SEE MY “IP” AND HACK ME…..

wake up people OH &

Git-R-Done

15 03 2011
Prokofy Neva

I don’t use Red Zone and have always opposed it. And I took on zFire before he was famous and outed him as a security thug in June 2010 on my blog. So I don’t have any reason to support this fellow.

I do want to point out, however, that I’d rather have the FBI or appropriate law-enforcement handle this matter rather than someone name “Theia Magic,” or “Bronxelf” whoever they are — and I no more have reliable data about who they are than I really have about zFire, as this is pieced-together speculation of the Internet Detective variety. And I definitely don’t trust Soft Linden — who accused me falsely of plagiarism based on the same kind of Google witch-hunting that led to another person with a similar name who wasn’t me, the result of a SLuniverse.com Sharia Court witch-hunt of 6 years ago still circulating.

So, yeah, I don’t put a lot of stock in either Sluniverse.com OR Soft Linden to handle my justice issue for me, and I think it’s a matter for the FBI. It might or might not be the same person; it could be the father or cousin with the same name, etc.

99 percent sure? Well, I’m 99 percent sure I don’t want Second Life to become a place where Cristiano’s Sharia Court gets to try and execute people without due process or adversarial defense or the law of discovery, and where their bagmen like Soft Linden get to serve as executioners at dawn, ejecting people and their products from the world because “the community wants it”. No thank you.

I’d like law enforcement to handle it, and I’d like the Lindens to stick to making software and not playing police and not to move to a product and merchant registration system thanks to the baying of the junkyard dogs at sluniverse.com.

P.S. Maybe people will pay more attention to me now that I’ve thrice been a reliable early-warning system on systems that the community only 6-12 much later seemed to find to be criminal.

15 03 2011
mqueen vendetta

Grow up, prok, and get up off your ass and do something more that flap your lips… give people credit for.doing the right thing.

15 03 2011
Itazura

Lesson: It doesn’t really matter how many times you are right if people will just ignore anything you have to say anyway because they know no matter what the subject is *supposed* to be about you’ll turn it around and make it all about you somehow.

9 06 2011
no2redzone

I looked at your blog where you claim to out zFire. Your “outing” appears to be a hysterical screaming of AR, AR, AR – like a demented Dalek with a stammer. This threat to AR him was because someone else entirely had allegedly done something to upset you but you were not very helpful in explaining exactly what. I never once felt sorry for zFire until I read that shameful snippet. I presume, whoever you are, your ARs are lgion and all go into the same bin at Linden Lab.

Sadly you completely missed the moment when he actually claimed to have developed the RedZone alt detector spyware. Had you been more alert and less shrill, you might indeed have been one of the first to draw attention to this issue. As it was, I never heard of you nor heard anything on this topic from you until this comment emerged. I have not bookmarked your site.

You say “I’d like law enforcement to handle it”. And indeed now they are.

Finally you say: “Maybe people will pay more attention to me now…”

I am sorry, but who exactly are you? I have never heard of you nor seen any early warnings of anything from you. Is there any reason anyone should – or should not listen to you?

16 03 2011
Notkenny

Breaking news: zfire is banned from SL

16 03 2011
Nunja

I would hope that LL didn’t ban without proof. And I am not saying what is being said is true or false. I dont care. I used a generic pw that i dont use in SL for the ZFire set up. SO I was not affected in any way if that was an issue.

My issue was the way I was treated and many others have been treated. The loss of respect I lost for people that I really thought a lot of and further proof that friendships and SL just do not work. Even one people that I loosely say is still a friend took all my rantings back word for word to someone else. That is not what I am in SL for.

My use of ZFire was just that to use to keep banned alts out and stop being pulled into their head games. Nothing more nothing less. Never did know how to find who alts are. As for IP addys….I look at it this way my IP addy is logged right now . Every web page I visit logs my IP addy.

IF ZFire was working criminology I am sure he is not the first nor the last in SL in RL or on the Internet. I want to believe that if ANY of this is true that he started this product for honest reasons and it just went from there. But that is what I want to believe.

Pretty much it appears ZFire is gone and so is RedZone. So hopefully wounds can heal and trust can be regained and we can all go chill and hang like we did before this drama intruded into our lives.

16 03 2011
Paglialite

Nunja … you used a generic password so you are safe – well that’s fine and dandy for you, isn’t it.

So it doesn’t bother you at all that countless others who were also griefed and duped into buying into this protection racket had their likely SL and email passwords harvested. And yes, this is proven.

This is the guy and the gang that you’ve been in bed with all this time and you don’t even feel a little bit foolish?

17 03 2011
Nunja

Nope Paglialite I do not cuz i bought it with the intentions I had that were not malicious. That supposed hacking just happened. That is when I got rid of RZ. So what is there to feel stupid or foolish about? Any site can get hacked doh…and SL has been hacked many many times. Anytime you enter info on the internet you take that risk. Anyone knows that inless they are maybe 12.

16 03 2011
Debbie

I think all you amatuer detectives should stop playing detectives, you have no credibility. I think I will just wait till the REAL LAW ENFORCEMENT tells me who Zfire is in real life and not from you AMATUERS. All the info that has been presented so far are from unknow people with unknown motives. Until we know who the people are that provided said evidence, i have to hold it as suspect. So until someone in authority tells me otherwise, my mind is still open.

16 03 2011
Lloyd Newman

Redzone is dead – blacklisted. zFire is gone. Several known alts of his (how ironic…) are gone. His store has been wiped from the face of the grid.

However, the battle for Avatar Privacy goes on.

17 03 2011
Nunja

Trust me he isnt gone

16 03 2011
Cathiee McMillan

@Debbie and Nunja

There are other more trusting Security tools out their in SL. That give you the banning tools you want. Which is a Hidden Ban list basically.
That doesn’t use a website to manage.
The fact Zfire his Alts and his griefing group KoM ( have been removed from SL says alot.
You all don’t get that HE ZFIRE was also griefing people to get people to BUY his Product. I am not A greenzone user never was. Did i stop going to places that i knew had RedZone YES.
You trusted a Man who ran a protection racket.
If you can’t see that nothing we can do. You will believe what you want.
Lindens got rid of him and the Kom why? Not cause a bunch of people said it was him they had the information of a Possible connection and then they looked at it them selves. Guess they found more connections than anyone else did.

16 03 2011
Micaela Darkwatch

Debbie, zFire left a trail of breadcrumbs so obvious, it didn’t take anything but us “amateur detectives” to find it. Start with his stated LLC, stated on his website isellsl. From there go to his BBB page, his state of Washington registration page, sos.wa.gov, then do a search on the stated name of the Agent/Member/Manager. You will need to place that name as “exact”. Go from there. Co-defendants, admitted YouTube account of marskgb006, etc.

That video he made for “Mariana” on the mars006kgb account was private, unlisted. Until it was taken down, all it needed was a link.

The users of Redzone were had. In a big way.

17 03 2011
Cathiee McMillan

@Nunja
So I have a question,
Why did you purchase Redzone if you had only 5 users banned?
You can do that with your own land managment tools?
You spent 3,999 on a device that you could have used Lindens own tools.
Seems like you wasted money this product in the first place.

Now you say Zfire will be back.
This then proves our point on the waste of such products like redzone that bans by IP since Lindens has better tools than Zfire did, yet you say he will be back.
Yes we put more trust in Lindens since they can be held accountable. If Lindens Database was stolen they would be required to inform all their users and most likely offer people free User ID theift service to its people for x number of years.
Do you think you would have gotten this from Zfire?

24 03 2011
zFire Xue Banned From Second Life « Second Life Copybot Viewer

[…] adding the accounts of Greenzone users to his blacklist, they went as far to say in real life zFire was a convicted criminal just before they announced his […]




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