Stop Press! Redzone Banned from MarketPlace Again

2 03 2011

Soft Linden said the following on the JIRA (see link right hand side) just now 02/Mar/11 12:58 PM (SLT)

Hey, all. I got the go-ahead to give an update on zF Red Zone specifically. Again, thank you for the ARs with specific info about violations. These have been very helpful for letting Lindens know what’s going on.

Tuesday morning, we removed zF Red Zone from the Marketplace for a second time. We removed the in-world vendor distributing the item as well. We determined that zF Red Zone was still in violation of our Terms of Service and Community Standards.

We asked for removal by no later than today of all zF Red Zone functionality that discloses any alternate account names. That is, even if consent is asked, the service may not act on the consent. In addition, we asked for removal by no later than Friday of the interface for and any remaining implementation of the zF Red Zone consent mechanism because it does not comply with our policies. If these updates are not made, we will take appropriate steps to remedy the violations.

As before, we appreciate your help in keeping an eye on content. If you find that any merchant’s product is not in compliance with our TOS or our Community Standards, please file an abuse report about the product. Do this even if you filed against a previous version. Include a specific explanation of what you believe is a violation, and ideally select and report the in-world object at issue in case it behaves differently than what’s in the Marketplace. Before reporting, make sure you have first-hand knowledge of the issue. Support can best react if you explain specific steps to reproduce or confirm a violation.

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15 responses

2 03 2011
Huntress Unya

This will be the death sentence for Redzone, but not for the illegitimate children it was spawning in its wake, so the fight is not over, until the media hole is patched.

But the gods have spoken, and they have spoken mightily!

2 03 2011
Potosi Abonwood

Funnier even more is that zFire was claiming HE took it down from the Marketplace the first time. Guess this is proof of what we were all pretty sure was another of his lies.

2 03 2011
Volker

So Redzone was removed three times from the marketplace. One time by zFire himself at 18th Februrary and 2 times by the Lindens. Strange I saw it happen only two times …

And I agree with Huntress that the madness will not stop here.
But i disagree about the media hole. People always call it exploit or hole. But actually the functions works like designed. There is no such thing as a hole in it that can be exploited.

And I would assume that is what makes it so hard for the Lindens to ‘change’ it. They will introduce a major break in functionality if they change it.

Again zFire is not jumping through any security holes, he uses the function just like it is documented, implemented and meant to use. Now if the Lindens change it, they will possibly break hundred/thousands of other scripts too.

Except the Janitor of the asset server no one can be sure how many scripts are affected. But a chance might break each and every youtube TV, media orb and so on in world.

So I doubt we will see a fix anytime soon. Unless someone comes with a really clever idea how to stop harvesting of IPs without breaking all those existing scripts.

2 03 2011
Jenni Darkwatch

It’s been mentioned over and over, but bears repeating:

The fix is to respect the “don’t play media automatically”, i.e. don’t contact the media server if the media is not playing. Simple, and breaks absolutely nothing but these silly so-called “security devices”.

Right now, there is an alternative approach by at least two different TPVs: Ask for permission before contacting a server, with a black/white list underneath. That’s a hack, but it works as well.

None of this breaks any existing content EXCEPT these pointless privacy-invasion devices marketed as alt-detectors. Erm I mean marketed as security devices to utterly clueless creators.

2 03 2011
Volker

I never used any media much, so I was unware that the viewer did not respect the autoplay setting when triggered by a script.

So I take part of my comment back ad admit having been on wrong grounds.

Under those circumstances I agree such a chance would be a good thing.

3 03 2011
Anastasia

RZ is even removed from his own shop! A friend of mine was there when Soft Linden removed it (again, he said). I got the transcript (short) and a picture of the event 🙂

3 03 2011
no2redzone

I would love to have copies of those.

3 03 2011
Anastasia

Send me an email address I can use.

3 03 2011
Nelson Jenkins

I want to see the explanation zF comes up with when all of the units spontaneously delete. “I removed them because of a pending update!” Yeah, okay.

Oh well, at least this was a welcome surprise.

3 03 2011
Huntress Unya

Is it only me or is http://isellsl.ath.cx/ no longer reachable with either ping or http?

3 03 2011
no2redzone

It is not just you. I am away from my computers right now, so I cannot run a diagnostic of what is going on. It may be temporary, or maybe some of our abuse reports to comcast and dyndns have been taken seriously. We will have to wait and see.

3 03 2011
Anastasia

http://isellsl.com/buy/ works, so it is not totally down

4 03 2011
Jenni Darkwatch

isellsl.com is apparently hosted on a different server, with a hosting provider (hosting24.com).

isellsl.ath.cx still points to a Comcast IP, but the IP seems unreachable.

3 03 2011
Azure Twine

He sells lindens for USD? Is he trying to get banned or does he really think he is above all the rules???

4 03 2011
Anonymous

I heard “Dr” Xue has close ties to the Gaddafi regime too, and plagiarised large parts of his imaginary doctoral thesis.




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